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. >> bill: yeah, he's good in those situation, but so is romney. >> let me talk about the depth of his support. when you look at the political, george washington poll that came out, this is taken mostly before the debate when certainly that's going to switch some support to the republicans, the enthusiasm gap is really big. double digits. some people saying they're -- >> bill: the polls say the romney voters are more motivated than the obama voters. >> it's moving more in that direction. >> bill: marjorie, last word. >> there is another interesting phenomenon. according to cbs "new york times" polling, obama has actually edged out the elite on the economy that romney had. that was his strongest point. so where we going into foreign relation, the next topic, obama has -- >> bill: i don't know if the president is in good shape in there right now after what cbs news said. i got to go. thanks, ladies. plenty more ahead. we'll play you some of the rumble between me and john tutor. give you a taste of what went down. bernie goldberg will analyze. california gas prices five bucks in some plac
. >> bill: yeah, he's good in those situation, but so is romney. >> let me talk about the depth of his support. when you look at the political, george washington poll that came out, this is taken mostly before the debate when certainly that's going to switch some support to the republicans, the enthusiasm gap is really big. double digits. some people saying they're -- >> bill: the polls say the romney voters are more motivated than the obama voters. >> it's moving more...
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romney. let's talk about that now. your jobs plan. let's do it. let's get right to our panel. here in new york msnbc political analyst david corn, author of the new book "47%", richard walls, one of my many bosses and in washington, karen finney. richard, i have to put this to you. romney says he will create 12 million jobs by cutting taxes across the board by 20% -- >> he's not going to cut taxes. >> hang on, which economists said cal cates to about $5 trillion but romney now says he won't cut taxes at 20% across the board and it won't accumulate $5 trillion in that sense. so is romney a presidential candidate or a ventriloquist? >> well, he's certainly a great debater with himself, right? because that would be a very interesting argument, the guy who promises tax cuts but says there are no tax cuts. a guy who says we shouldn't be having mission creep in libya but wants mission creep in syria. he's been on all sides of the issues. >> that's just in the last week. >> the president needs to just say these things, it's not obvious to people watching on tv. when you're in a debat
romney. let's talk about that now. your jobs plan. let's do it. let's get right to our panel. here in new york msnbc political analyst david corn, author of the new book "47%", richard walls, one of my many bosses and in washington, karen finney. richard, i have to put this to you. romney says he will create 12 million jobs by cutting taxes across the board by 20% -- >> he's not going to cut taxes. >> hang on, which economists said cal cates to about $5 trillion but romney...
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they're building and talking about their ground game, grassroots, 4 million people have been contacted here in ohio alone. 4 1/2 million. that's more than a third of the overall population. the polls have ticked up. romney has closed the gap, leading in some of the national polls, within the mar i didn't know of error, and in most of the battle ground states, he's either closed the gap and in a couple of cases, gone up by a point or two. these are swings in the polls. he's eliminated any bounce the president had gotten from his convention with the own bounce he got last week. with the vice presidential debate this week and two more presidential debathes and generally both campaigns have recognized for the better part of the last year that this race was always going to hover at a close to even tie, 45-47 apiece and it will be decided probably in the last two weeks to ten days as that last 6% of undecideds make up their mind. that's why the grassroots organization battle is so important. the polls have always been tight. they're likely to stay that way until the end. >> shep: be a fries
they're building and talking about their ground game, grassroots, 4 million people have been contacted here in ohio alone. 4 1/2 million. that's more than a third of the overall population. the polls have ticked up. romney has closed the gap, leading in some of the national polls, within the mar i didn't know of error, and in most of the battle ground states, he's either closed the gap and in a couple of cases, gone up by a point or two. these are swings in the polls. he's eliminated any bounce...
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let's talk about the pew poll and that romney lead. could you break down those numbers. >> that's a huge lead. if that number is correct, you know, it seems to be a little bit of an outlier. we don't have a lot of information. all the polls that have been released since the debate, state polls, national polls and the average for romney is he's increased his performance by about four to five points. that's a big deal. since the convention, obama seemed to have a lead of about four points. now it's gone back to the pre-convention period where it was tied or obama had a one to two-point lead in all the polls. the best thing to do is to wait for the by the end of the week we'll have more national poll. we'll see what's showing up in the swing state. it does seem just like obama got a big bump out of his convention, mitt romney has a significant bump out of his first debate performance. >> we need to look at overall trends. overall trends clearly moving towards romney including in key voting groups. women voters, if you look at pew a month
let's talk about the pew poll and that romney lead. could you break down those numbers. >> that's a huge lead. if that number is correct, you know, it seems to be a little bit of an outlier. we don't have a lot of information. all the polls that have been released since the debate, state polls, national polls and the average for romney is he's increased his performance by about four to five points. that's a big deal. since the convention, obama seemed to have a lead of about four points....
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pew talked nor democrats last month. gallup's daily tracking poll shows president obama ahead of mitt romney by five points. let's go to marsha blackburn, a romney campaign surrogate. the poll numbers the significant rise for mitt romney and drop for barack obama, is that simply the calculations of the debate, do you think? >> i think the debate had a lot to do with it because people wanted to concisely and specifically see how mitt romney would move forward and function as president. so the debate weighed into that. i think also people are doing a lot of research. i'm talking to a lot of undecided voters in the swing states and what i'm hearing from them is that they are online, they are researching, they are reading, and they are in a very independent and thoughtful way making up their mind who they are going to vote for. >> when you look at likely female voters i thought this poll was very interesting. back on september 12th through the 16th which is on the right side of your screen you can see president obama up 56 t
pew talked nor democrats last month. gallup's daily tracking poll shows president obama ahead of mitt romney by five points. let's go to marsha blackburn, a romney campaign surrogate. the poll numbers the significant rise for mitt romney and drop for barack obama, is that simply the calculations of the debate, do you think? >> i think the debate had a lot to do with it because people wanted to concisely and specifically see how mitt romney would move forward and function as president. so...